SFM Focus Group CO-OP – Update Archive

Update Archive

WEDNESDAY 27TH MARCH 2013

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MONDAY 25TH MARCH 2013

I have started archiving the updates from here, see the link header above.

I had a fairly long chat with Greg & Fiona this morning and we agreed that we would cover more ground if we pooled our resources as far as the co-op’s are concerned. We will run ours and they theirs but we will keep each other updated as to what we are doing, what works and what doesn’t. We also agreed that we should not spread our good sources too far as when we find good sources we don’t want to saturate them and deplete their effectiveness. Is everyone cool with that?

I have now paid Arcamax the $399 and sent them the swipe details so we are all set for the 28th.

I just need Eddington’s and Sophia’s links by 2pm EDT today please, as it turns out.

  • Make $?? payment to my Paypal account at “contact@iwantrouters.com”, I will provide a link.
  • Go to your Funnel Settings at http://app.thesixfigurementors.com/marketing-tools/my-funnelsetting and set:
    • The “Landing Page” to “Free Bootcamp”
    • The “ThankYou Page” to “Original”
  • Then go to the Link Generator at http://app.thesixfigurementors.com/marketing-tools/my-urlgen and create a “Tracking” link called “SFMFG-coop-001” and email me the link to me at stuartinbristol@gmail.com, it will look similar to this “http://thesfm.com/normalguy?t=SFMFG-coop-001”

I have subscribed stuartinbristol@gmail to Christine and Wayne’s list if everything is working ok, please can you check and let me know ASAP.

Please can you click the link http://info.workwithstuartchalmers.com/tracking202/redirect/dl.php?t202id=3104&t202kw= so that I can see some test clicks coming through. Until I get Eddington’s and Sophia’s links there are two test links in there so you may see these. This is all working now.

Now we have:

  1. Sophia Alcina Soul – Paid – http://thesfm.com/sophiasoul?t=SFMFG-coop-001
  2. Christine Chow – Paid – Link: http://thesfm.com/elkyra?t=SFMFG-coop-001
  3. Eddington Pindura – Mostly Paid – Link: http://thesfm.com/eddington/?pg=free-training&t=SFMFG-coop-001
  4. Stuart Chalmers – Paid – Link: http://thesfm.com/normalguy?t=SFMFG-coop-001
  5. Wayne Gillies – Paid – Link: http://thesfm.com/wgillies/?t=SFMFG-coop-001

SATURDAY 23RD MARCH 2013

Now we have:

  1. Sophia Alcina Soul – Paid
  2. Christine Chow – Paid – Link: http://thesfm.com/elkyra?t=SFMFG-coop-001
  3. Eddington Pindura – Mostly Paid
  4. Stuart Chalmers – Paid – Link: http://thesfm.com/normalguy?t=SFMFG-coop-001
  5. Wayne Gillies – Paid – Link: http://thesfm.com/wgillies/?t=SFMFG-coop-001

FRIDAY 22ND MARCH 2013

It’s time to go for it. There are five of us so please can you pay $80 each to here:

 

or you can send it to contact@iwantrouters.com it will be to iwantrouters which is my ecommerce site.

Around Tuesday I will ask you to set your funnels as follows:

  • Make $?? payment to my Paypal account at “contact@iwantrouters.com”, I will provide a link.
  • Go to your Funnel Settings at http://app.thesixfigurementors.com/marketing-tools/my-funnelsetting and set:
    • The “Landing Page” to “Free Bootcamp”
    • The “ThankYou Page” to “Original”
  • Then go to the Link Generator at http://app.thesixfigurementors.com/marketing-tools/my-urlgen and create a “Tracking” link called “SFMFG-coop-001” and email me the link to me at stuartinbristol@gmail.com, it will look similar to this “http://thesfm.com/normalguy?t=SFMFG-coop-001”

Which landing page? There are several standard landing pages on SFM and I don’t know which is the best.The most common type is this one http://thesfm.com/normalguy of which there are a few variations. There are several thank you pages too. The one I have chosen is not necessarily the best converting one as I have not tried all of them and I tend to use my own squeeze pages most of the time. So … if anyone has a preference then I am happy to change it as I think they will all do their job. I think that the newer ones are likely to perform better. Let me know?

Now we have:

  1. Sophia Alcina Soul – Paid
  2. Christine Chow
  3. Eddington Pindura – Mostly Paid
  4. Stuart Chalmers – Paid
  5. Wayne Gillies – Paid

THURSDAY 21ST MARCH 2013

I’m going to aim to have this all setup with Arcamax on Monday 25th March. I’ll therefore put a deadline for particpating as 5pm GMT on Friday 22nd March so that we know what we have to pay and so that I can get all the links and payments in from everyone in reasonable time.

I have arranged a provisional run date of the 28th March for the co-op with Arcamax.  I am looking at the opportunity buyers list on Nextmark now.

Now we have:

  1. Rex Hoverlove
  2. Sophia Alcina Soul
  3. Christine Chow
  4. Eddington Pindura
  5. Stuart Chalmers
  6. Wayne Gillies

So far, $66.50 each.

WEDNESDAY 20TH MARCH 2013

There are now enough of us to go ahead with the Arcamax $399 newsletter email send. At this stage I must state that there are no guarantees on what we will get, Arcamax say we could get 1,500 clicks which for $399 is good but we could get more or we could get less.

So far and in no particular order, this is who is in:

  1. Rex Hoverlove
  2. Sophia Alcina Soul
  3. Christine Chow
  4. Eddington Pindura
  5. Stuart Chalmers

Not yet decided:

  1. Wayne Gillies

So if we do this with 5 people and as an example it will cost $399 / 5 = $80 each.

As an example we might expect up to 300 clicks each which might yield 100 opt-ins at $0.80 per opt-in. This would be pretty good especially if they are good quality leads. If we got half that at $1.60 a lead that would still be good.

This is the swipe I usually use, it normally gets me between 30% and 40% opt-ins, it’s simple and it’s short:

Swipe subject:

“Free Report And 7 Free Videos, An Awesome Start For You?”

Swipe copy with tracked and rotated link:

Hi {name}

Would you like to learn how to make money on the internet from people who make 8 figures from it already?

Get a FREE report and 7 FREE videos of high quality training about how to do this?

==>> {URL}

{Your name}

Your interest is always appreciated, thanks for reading this far.

What you would need to supply to me

Don’t do this yet but it will probably be:

  • Make $?? payment to my Paypal account at “contact@iwantrouters.com”, I will provide a link.
  • Go to your Funnel Settings at http://app.thesixfigurementors.com/marketing-tools/my-funnelsetting and set:
    • The “Landing Page” to “Free Bootcamp”
    • The “ThankYou Page” to “Original”
  • Then go to the Link Generator at http://app.thesixfigurementors.com/marketing-tools/my-urlgen and create a “Tracking” link called “SFMFG-coop-001” and email me the link to me at stuartinbristol@gmail.com, it will look similar to this “http://thesfm.com/normalguy?t=SFMFG-coop-001”

TUESDAY 19TH MARCH 2013

As per Eddinton’s suggestion I have enquired with Arcamax and they have come back to me with something that looks pretty good.

They require a minimum $250 order and suggest participating in their FreeSites newsletter which they say can bring in as many as 1,500 clicks for $399. This newsletter has 750,000 readers.

“FreeSites, Top slot (offers based newsletter featuring weight loss, biz op’s, education, and coupons). Top Advertiser owns BOTH the FROM line and email subject line PLUS… free a/b splits to the full or half list!!”

Pricing to send out to this newsletter is:

  • Full list = $1,375 – 750,000
  • Half list = $725 – 375,000
  • Quarter list = $399 – 187,500

Here are some links to some sample editions (AM & PM editions):

The top slot email also means we get to customise the header, for example:

From: Stuart Chalmers
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 10:09 AM
Subject: Your Opportunity to Make A LOT of Money

Whilst looking at other options I suggest we give this a go as I think it’s low cost and fairly low risk. Who would like to proceed with this?

SATURDAY 16TH MARCH 2013

I’ve had a reply back from the LeadsandData Business Opportunity (Bizopp) Seekers with Email, I think this looks promising. I want to check that they are ok with our co-op even though it won’t affect them and also ask this “Almost forgot, what do you mean by “and pay you on a CPL basis“, about paying us? Please can explain a bit more.”

Hi Stuart, sorry for the delay in getting back to you…. I have included answers to your questions below. Look forward to doing business with you…. thx, Eric 

Dear  Leadsanddata 

I am interested in emailing out to your list. I would like to know the following please: 

  • Do you allow landing page destinations in the swipes? Sure, we also provide tracking for you and pay you on a CPL basis.
  • What’s your policy on payment?
    • Deposit?
    • Money up front? X  Pre-Paid
    • Credit?
    • Please confirm the following as specified on your Nextmark listing: confirmed
      • $25 – Price per 1,000
      • $0 – Email per 1,000
      • $10 – Hotline per 1,000 (additional)
      • What is your niche speciality, e.g. I am interested in internet marketing and training? Data Sales
      • Can I pick time of day, is there a time of day you recommend?Tuesday thru Friday
      • How often do you email out? 3x daily
      • How well qualified and responsive is your list? Very good…they are bizopp responders
      • Do people re-use your’ List (probably a daft question)? yes 

For our first and trial run I would like representative sample of your’ list. No problem 

If your minimum is $750 then would the actual minimum be 22,000 @ $770.  yes”

THURSDAY 14TH MARCH 2013

First of all I’m sorry that this has taken longer than expected but I still feel it is right to be cautious.

I have tried with lists.nextmark in another co-op and that so far hasn’t worked out very well due to the quality of the list used, a refund is being requested for that run. I am anxious to avoid that situation.

I am currently trying to get more info on LeadsandData Business Opportunity (Bizopp) Seekers.  This is because it is cheap so even if it flops we won’t lose so much even though the minimum is $750, it looks like it is suited to our SFM product and because for the minimum order it will go to 22,000 subscribers.

I am also looking at MacroMark as this has been recommended to me as an alternative to NextMark although it looks like it might use NextMark as its engine.

Eddington suggested www.arcamax.com/advertising/solo which looks really promising from what I can see so I have sent them an enquiry as well.

If Arcamax or the people who own LeadsandData Business Opportunity (Bizopp) Seekers come back with satisfactory answers I suggest giving one of them a go.

WEDNESDAY 7TH MARCH 2013

It turns out that the AVANTE MULTISELEX – ON MY OWN! BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY PROSPECTS list is aimed at low end purchases so have asked if they have another suitable list. Besides this their actual pricing is different to what was specified on lists.nextmark.com. The search continues. At the cost of the data, it is important that we find the right list in terms of demographic and value for money.  We either need lots of leads or good quality leads where the latter is preferable.

Updates below in green today 🙂

WEDNESDAY 6TH MARCH 2013

I am looking into lists.nextmark.com at the moment and have identified some lists.

I am waiting for the results of a Nextmark run which should go out today before I set one up for our co-op as I think it is only fair that I check it out some and report back before we give this a go.

Please see the lists.nextmark.com section below for an explanation on how nextmark works.

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